The FF1 Translation Topic

[Strag0]

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[ChrisRPG]

Let me be the first to say nice work guys! Looks like some technical problems have been solved. And maybe it will get done sooner than we thought. Thats great news!  http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Rhinoz]

Let me be the first to say
SWEET

[kmausob]

strag0 when do you plan to release a patch of FF1? i swear i read that almost all of the text has been translated?

[Strag0]

Yeah, just about "ALL" of the dialouge has been translated. There is about 20% left.. All the other text has been translated, and i'm formating it all for insertion. However there are a few ASM things neededing to be worked out, dealing with Text length and window length. The reat of the compression, is also soon to be worked out ( Bridge Cutscene and Ending ) ...

[brightman]

Since when did this become the official FF1 translation board? http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Anyway this is great! Can't wait!

[kmausob]

thanks strag0 for updating me on the progress. when i go to your sight it is blue and it says strag0 an the bottom,with nothing else is it supose to be like that? the other two sights under the ff1 wsc translation arn't updated.

[Strag0]

Yeah there isn't an Offical page yet for the game, seeing as we're not a named group and we don't really have any kind of 'ranks' handed out, its nothing that has been worried about, but i'll probably toss up something simple when we get around to a release.

[brightman]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Strag0 @ May 13 2002,15:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah there isn't an Offical page yet for the game, seeing as we're not a named group and we don't really have any kind of 'ranks' handed out, its nothing that has been worried about, but i'll probably toss up something simple when we get around to a release.[/b][/quote]
Wasn't there something on your page before though? At least I thought something was there.

[Strag0]

Yeah there was about a year ago, when i tried my hands at romhacking for the first time.. Super Robot Wars was my project

[Lolo]

http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cwm13.gif &nbsp;ummm someone already translated ff1 for wsc....

[Kairos_reo]

http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif yeah but it was using an old translation doc. and it has some problems...they are hoping to make a perfect (correct me if I'm wrong) translation. Like stuff fits in the boxes perfect..and other annoying junk. okay?

[ChrisRPG]

It may have been hacked. Thats what youd call it, It has the translation from the FF1 NES version in it. And this one will have the compression translated and variable width fonts to fit the entire words in I think, and expansion, and a real high quality patch. There is a big difference because it was not translated from the WSC version, it was just hacked. http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif But this one will be.

[brightman]

Yup, this one's guaranteed to be 100X better than the other one. Kalas, the creator of that hack, admitted that the patch was inferior himself.

[kmausob]

strag0 when do you think your patch will be ready for public release?

[Strag0]

Not for a while, i'm still busy formating scripts, kinda pissed about some character limits. Spell names have hardly changed from the NES game, but i'm going to try to get thoese works out and get something a tad longer then 4 characters. There are a few other things that need expanding and i hope to get to them or at least someone like Niiru that can get to'em before the patch is released. None the less it's near done. Formating is going nicely ( besides the character limit that makes things look ugly ) and what not, but as Chris said hopefully there will be a VWF in the game so we can fit most everything in with no problem.

If you have any more questions just ask away...

[The Tick]

Lookin' good!

[kmausob]

i'm glad to hear thet you are not going to rush out some crappy release. good things are worth waiting for, and your patch sure is one of them, same with the ff2 patch.

[Strag0]

Hopefully you mean the FF2 Stage 2 patch http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ChrisRPG]

Ive already done some work on the stage 2 release. I have dumped some of the pointer tables for dialogueSo that I can insert it back in with the scripts when I getthem back from spspiff. thats the easy part. the hard part is the expansion of spell names and item names and stuff. For what I would like to do though menu expansion, and everything... It may take a while. unless someon wants to help me with it. &nbsp;http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Strag0]

Eh i'm running into Expansion problems as well. Though it seems that Squaresoft was nice enough to put in a routine for location names in the menu. It likes to make the tiles smaller so i can fit an unlimited number of tiles in, ha ha! Now i have to impliment that into this hack and we're golden. So far though i've been working on Insertion, oh what fun that is. heh heh heh, i've done so much it seems, and yet i've only do so little.

[Rhinoz]

Ahh confusing are you talking about ff1 or ff2 right now

and are you talking about things like item/spell/name expansion

and can we see some more screenshots of FF1 I liked the last one

[brightman]

Chris RPG talks about FF2 because he's working on that, Strag0 talks about FF1 because he's working on that. Simple enough?

[Rhinoz]

I suppose that helps but still you have to like the more requests for screenshots

[Strag0]

Screenshots will come in good time, Nothing really to show off unless you want to see some screenshots of garble.

[Kairos_reo]

Garbles good it shows progress and that's always good! &nbsp;http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cwm40.gif

[Strag0]

Lol well i mean there isn't much progression, i'm inserting text. thats it. i'm not about to make a screenshot for each screen of text i insert. You'll have to wait to see the finished patch.

[Rhinoz]

thats a good point


will the variable width font allow for more than 4 characters in the names?

[Strag0]

It should, IF it can be added. I'm not 100% Sure if it can be added.

[Strag0]

It seems VWF will be a ***** to add, seeing as i barely get the idea of programming, and no one around has the want to help with this it might just be an impossible dream. =D but i may just hold back the release until we get at least a VWF in the game.

[SigmaX7]

But what if you can't put it in? Then what?

[Kairos_reo]

It just basicly means, I think, is that you will only be able to put in 4 letters for people's names. Like you normaly do now...

[brightman]

That's a classic part of FF1, makes you really think to try to make creative names for your characters http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif So I wouldn't be too sad if VW is not included.

[Strag0]

Ah no, VWF would save me from the 26 Character ( spaces included ) Spell, Item, Weapon, Armor descriptions. Various Location names, Names on the Map, Status Screen, and other little thinks.

[ChrisRPG]

I think a VWF make it look much better! &nbsp;http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif If we can do it in our free projects, why can't they do it(the game publishers), when people pay for it. http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif

[Kairos_reo]

Laziness....hehe. &nbsp;http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kmausob]

they probally didnt need more spaces since japineese words are smaller than english words or at least i think they are. but with such long japineese names you would think they would include VWF.

[brightman]

Yeah, that's true. It gives you more room to maneuver and more text to put it, so I guess it's a good thing. Though many game companies just change the names or description if they don't fit, they don't want to bother with VW.

[kmausob]

an idea for a new translation romancing saga WSC would love to see this one translated. give in to the peer pear -whatever- pressure mr translator man.

[ChrisRPG]

Oh Gideon Zhi is working on that one now. his site AGTP link is on our links page.

I meant for english games. WHy dont they do it. It looks so much better and is not that hard. I look at a lot of PSX games and cant figure out why, with the processing power they have access to. It wouldnt have taken that much more to add VWFs. If I ever developed a game that would be a priority for it.

[FearGaia]

Well I think the powers that be, just either don't see it as important, or don't care. &nbsp;Who knows?

[Strag0]

It seems the VWF is impossible for FF1, so i guess we'll see the mangled text, ugh it's so ugly. oh well.. =X But romancing SaGa is evil on SFC i doubt it's any better on WSC. http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Rhinoz]

even with ASM hacking and stuff vwf will be impossible =(

oh well is it still going to be an awesome translation hehe

[FearGaia]

I love love love love love love love love love Final Fantasy 1!
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Kid is out of hospital, he ok it seems.
And oh boy my check came so after memorial day I can finally once again taste the wonders that be DelTaco!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!
Smash u flat!

[kmausob]

chris he is translating Makaitoushi SaGa WSC it is a remake of final fantasy legends for WSC origionally for GB. i was talking about Romancing Saga WSC it was a SNES game if anyone already translated it i would like to know than maybe someone can tell me how to hack the rom to put the SNES translated script in.

[Strag0]

Hope you know some X86 asm, it's full of fun.

[FearGaia]

I know x86! Well ok I know a LITTLE bit of it, but isn't that better than nothin? *thinking*

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[ChrisRPG]

Then you guys should get together and try to get the game translated.

[Strag0]

I doubt this hack of FF1 will ever seen the light of day now, i'm getting fed up with the insane amount of nonsense that is invovled in these pointers.. 16 blocks of the same text. 2 pointer tables for each, one being a stright forward pointer table. The other picking out certain words and phrases from the text block and placing them in a pointer table that consists of perhaps 3 - 12 pointers, each split up with about 21 bytes. I'm going insane..

[ChrisRPG]

he he ... when you talk about pointers like that. I know because DQ12 pointers are a nightmare! Im still fixing them. And Im sure there will be a lot more when I get completed beta reports too. I felt the exact same way a couple weeks ago. I was really thinking about giving up. But i made it, and now, That the majority if it is done, the rest seems very easy. I know what you feel like strago. What worked for me was to just go on to something else for a while or play a game that you really like.. Then go back to the pointers later. Because I made more mistakes the more frustrated I got. http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ChrisRPG]

Any luck on the frustration? I hope so. Itll be worth it when the final product is done.

[Strag0]

Ah, Yeah i figured it out, Byuu has me learning the most needed ASM. Which is needed for some of these blasted menus. I don't think anyone wants to goto a shop and "Bu" something or even view their "Magi" http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[TheMosc]

strango how is the translation of FF1 going it's been like 2 weeks since someone put a post on this board just wondering

[Strag0]

Well i've not worked on it in weeks now. I haven't had the time or want to. Real life has come into play.. so i'm trying to work that out before i have some harsh recoils to the things thats going on. so it's at the same spot as it was last.

[ChrisRPG]

Sorry to her that Strago. I know all to well what real life brings. I have been overwhelmed too as of recently with real life problems. things will get better though.

[SigmaX7]

I don't got alot of time for my self either. And not only that put I got tons of other message boards that I go to, and that Arc the Lad Collection is draining my time *I'm trying to get 1000 wins in the Arena of Arc 1*.