little problem

[strider]

i just noticed that whenever i boot up my computer this program starts up. i dont know why. i tried to get rid of it.
can anyone help out?

[InFiniTy]

i have no idea what that is

i cant make out the name, the auto-sizer screwed up the font what is it?

oh its cmd.exe...i think you got that from downloading xp power toys...dont know how to stoip it from starting up tho.....type msconfig in the run window then click the startup tab and see if its there



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[strider]

you mean xp updates? i located the file, says it was created sep 2001 but modified august 2001. http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??
and no it isnt in the startup thing. should i just delete it?

[InFiniTy]

god i don't know,.....do some searches to see if you find anything about it.....but i dont reccommend to delete it

doesn't anyone here know what that is?

[Reina]

It's the command prompt(a.k.a. dos prompt)... if i'm correct, your system (my xp does that also) is loading a ms-dos based startup/bootup tool... nothing to worry about (AFAIK)... http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[InFiniTy]

but can it be stopped from running on startup?

[Reina]

You wouldn't want it to "stop"... its is as basic as Windows to your computer... if not even more important... if XP is run like the other windows OSs then windows depends on that to run... if not then if you have any batch files or dos based games they couldn't run w/o it...
leave it alone... its a good thing it starts... http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Torch_anim.gif

[InFiniTy]

oh ok, but it does seem pretty annoying.....isnt there someway for it to run in the background instead of bringing up a window?

[Reina]

I don't guess there is a way... it comes up on my comp also... http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif

[InFiniTy]

well if you have it as well i guess its normal then....

[Cero]

Uhm, odd. I never ever seen cmd.exe opening on startup....Not running in teh background either. Strange...

[InFiniTy]

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did you do a search to see if its in your system?

[Cero]

Yep, I found it. Its there alrite, know what it is?

cmd.exe == Start->All Programs->Accessories->Commnad Prompt

Although I still have no idea as to why it would it would run on start up. Makes no sense...I've never experienced this...

One q tho, for the ppl that get that. Did you upgrade or do a clean install?



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[InFiniTy]

hmmn yea answer those Q's....and are you two running home or proffesional?

[strider]

i dont know why its doing it but it hasnt been doing it until last week. it might be linked to all this kazaa shit i downloaded- after starting this program i got the cmd thing popped up.
i have the home edition. i was able to stop it from starting up every time by unchecking "explorer32.exe" from the msconfig
was that a good thing to do ?

[InFiniTy]

uhh...since you ticked off that does the window stop showing up onstartup?

[strider]

what do yo mean? everything worked fine with out explorer32.exe whatever that is- sounds important though.
everything looks normal. what is explorer32.exe anyway?

[strider]

i located explorer32.exe and it says it was created july 24(last wednsday) so i guess thats what was causing the cmd problem, but the cmd problem happened before jul 24. does anyone who has the same problem have explorer32 or anyone else?

[Reina]

explorer32 a.k.a. windows application explorer 3.2...
it runs win32 apllications which is your general program... it resets itself continuasly so it would say something strange for creation and modification dates...
I've fount that it starts on averyone comp but only shows up if your hard drive has lots of stuff jammed up into it. (what the computer considers alot of stuff is determined by your hard drive size)
My comp started that after I loaded BG1 and 2 on it... http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bat_angel.gif

[InFiniTy]

me thinks me confused...so should he leave it ticked off from starting up?

[Reina]

Leave it active... AFAIK it actually helps...

[Angel316]

Well at least i'm not the only having problems with the windows updates... The last update made it impossible to use my scanner... Had to use the M$ drivers.

[strider]

I dont think it was the updates that are causing it
or how much disk space i used(i only used about 25% so far)
i think its some kind of glitch that i made it do accidently but i dont know how.
and how does it help? what does afaik mean?

[InFiniTy]

As Far As I Know AFAIK

[Reina]

well... if its not raw HD space then maybe ram space on start up... but I do know its not a glitch... its as important as windows... just there is something (does Kazaa startup when you turn your comp on?) thats making your comp lag just a bit that its making cmd.exe appear...

[strider]

no kazaa doesnt pop up. i think its a glitch cuz there hasnt been any major change in my computer before this problem started and now. even when i only load explorer32.exe at the beginning nothing else it still pops up.
this is gettin on my nerves.
and if its as important as windows then why the hell does this happen and why dont people know about? doesnt make sense!!!



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[Cero]

...

If your HD is crammed, WinXP will tell u that u need to free up space. How much HD space you hav left doesnt determine your startup conditions. Neither does RAM. Hell, I've booted comps with 64mb ram with absolutely no paging file and nothing about startup changed. CMD.exe is not a CRITICAL system process. There is absolutely no reason for it to run on startup.

I asked if u guys upgraded, but no one answered. Sigh, my guess is that u got another program loading on startup that is DOS dependant. And to run anything DOS based on XP, what do we do? Click Start->All Programs->Accessories->Commnad Prompt which is cmd.exe (right click the start menu shortcut->go to properties and see).

SO, Start->Run->type msconfig->Click the Startup tab and look over whats there. Uncheck anything that looks pointless. Better yet, post a screenie of everything there, maybe we can spot it for ya.

[Reina]

I fount the error problem... I think... you got a program somewhere that requires a different autoexec.bat or config.bat (I used to be very good at working dos... and making weird stuff come up on your comp at start http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )
these to batch files control your startup settings and both windows and dos ( now called command prompt but is still dos ) heavly depend on these... but some programs can't run under XPs new settings for these two files... so certain programs create a different autoexec.bat and config.bat to accomadate that programs settings... but since XP can't completely support as "main" these new ones are partially renamed and stored in a sub directory... but since only XP and not command prompt supports multiple autoexec.bat and config.bat it can't be run under command prompt and must be started upon the start of windows Xp by Windows explorer (explorer32.exe/?) so the thing cannot be hid upon startup &nbsp;w/o explorer loading and despite all your work its encredibly hard to not start since all windows is, is basically explorer.(so even if you turn explorer off and tell the computer to not load it upon startup it still will start).
and cmd.exe is critical... it starts windows for yah... and almost anything else dependent on the dos backbone...

Did you get all that?

[strider]

so you're saying theres nothing i can do about it? damn this things giving me a headache... i didnt understand i word you just said(im too lost dazed and confused). i dont know though, unchecking explorer32 stopped it and everythings still running ok no problems yet. isnt there any way to make things the way they were before? or should i just not make such a big problem with it and forget it?


no i didnt upgrade. i bought my computer with windows xp.
what should i do? defragment? i just did that yesterday.
it doesnt seem like theres anything that would need dos cmd.exe. heres the screen.
btw, how do you get some of those things off the startup list completely?



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[Reina]

//Me smacks strider...

I didn't say you upgraded!
Read what I said closely... that is the shortest way I could say that... (p.s. keep in mind what I said is based on my knowledge of the compatibilty switch in XP and knowledge of the old dos... I'm king of dos)

[strider]

i didnt see the thing before
check again i edited it

[Reina]

What I'm trying to say (w/o the techy stuff) is that a program you put on your puter (like Kazaa) could of set itself to run correctly... but in the process of doing this it had to create new startup batch files... and windows starts these automatically no matter what... (unless you dump windows... which I don't recomend http://www.emuxhaven.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

[strider]

what about unchecking explorer32.exe?
would the problem be fixed if i would to get rid of Everything(fdisk its called?) but backing important files first then loading in a windows xp cd?

i dunt know i still think there is another way to fix this. i have to undo it somehow. since you know so much about dos, do you know how to get rid of the batch files that make it start up that way? but then you said theres no way to get rid of it..



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[Reina]

well... yes... you could get rid of the batch files.. but that would be unwise... a program created that for windows and windows uses it to help... not hurt... and it will still come up since they are also stored in the system registry AFAIK...

and unchecking explorer32.exe wouldn't (shouldn't) work... as I said in that long explanation &nbsp;explorer32.exe is basically windows... and windows stops programs from loading... so if the program is already loaded then it can't stop loading...

oh and never get rid of fdisk... its VERY important...
don't sitch XP either... the only way to get rid of it w/o hurting yourself is to completely delete the two then edit your system registry then track down the program that made it and delete it and edit your system registry again to make sure its gone... but thats very dangerous...

I would recomemmend living with it... it doesn't actuallt "hurt" anything but instead helps with compatibility of some of your programs...

[strider]

yea i guess ill just ignore it then. seems it just came outa nowhere though.

wait i just got an idea! how about i switch my explorer32.exe with someone elses who doesnt have the problem?
sounds dumb but could it work?

[Reina]

No that wouldn't work... and if you try that you probably will screw your computer down... for each computer the system is set up just for that computer... and the explorer is just a program that reads your system files and display and run other stuff... the system files tell your computer what to run (what explorer can't run alone)